Tall seats and short legs!

One of the issues I’ve had with the Tenere 700 Rally Edition is the height of the seat. Being somewhat under-tall and constantly reminded of it by the guys I ride with, it’s really affected my ability to handle the bike confidently when foot down, especially on anything other than smooth tarmac.

The standard Tenere 700 Rally Edition seat

The standard Rally Edition seat looks great and allows the rider to move pretty much right up to the tank for off-road riding however, it raises the seat height considerably compared to the OEM standard two part seat and the optional low seat. Along with being high it’s also incredibly uncomfortable. From the bottom of the seat to the top, the seat gradually gets narrower meaning that the bit you actually get to sit on is far too narrow for anything more than a 30min jaunt. Any more than 30mins and it starts to hurt, after an hour you just have to get off.

I don’t know what it is with motorcycle manufacturers today, seats are made purely for looks and not comfort. Years ago back when I was young and foolish motorcycle seats were comfortable, you could ride all day without any issue at all. The last bike I had with a great seat was my lovely Suzuki GSX1400, what a great seat that was! I could ride that bike all day without an issue, no bum ache whatsoever, a joy to sit on. Since then pretty much all my bikes have had horrendously uncomfortable seats.

OEM two part low seat

After much measuring and calculating I decided to replace the Rally Edition seat with the Yamaha OEM optional low seat. This reduces the seat height by 4cm which, when you’ve only got a 73cm inside leg like me, makes a fair difference. Of course, there’s two parts to this story, the first is the price and the second is that it comes in two parts.

Manufacturers today milk you for every penny they can get, so why make the low seat a one piece unit like the original when you can split it in two and charge double the price!

The low seat option (which is just the front 3/4 of the whole seat) has an RRP of £160.00 + shipping. You then need to get the rear 1/4 of the seat which for some reason has an RRP of £179.00, yes the smallest bit costs more than the biggest bit.

The only good thing about this arrangement is that you can choose between a passenger seat for the rear or the optional luggage rack.

Since my wife no longer rides and definitely won’t want to sit on the tiny uncomfortable passenger seat for more than 5 seconds I opted for the luggage rack.

OEM optional low seat and luggage rack

The one big advantage of the luggage rack is that it mounts where the passenger would normally sit. This brings the weight directly over the rear wheel, probably the best place it could be. If you look at most aftermarket luggage racks they normally stick out the back of the bike which means once loaded, the leverage of the weight behind the rear wheel tends to lift the front wheel making the steering vague at best and terrifying at worst.

Prodding the low seat it felt hard to say the least and had me worried at first but, after a 4 hour ride I found it to be very comfortable. It’s also worth noting that it is some 4cm wider at the top than the original Rally Seat, this small difference actually makes a big difference as it gives much more support to the hips, so no more aching hips after long rides.

Tenere 700 OEM optional low seat and luggage rack with Outback Motortek pannier frame

One disadvantage of the low seat is that you cannot move forward as far as you can on the Rally Edition seat due to it’s deeper curve at the front, a small trade off for being more comfortable and able to reach the ground better.

With the original seat I could just get one foot down on tiptoes, no chance of getting the other foot anywhere near the ground but, now with the low seat I can get one foot planted flat on the ground and two feet down tiptoe if the need arises, a big improvement for me.

Total cost?
Well after having a hunt around I found that getting the parts from Yamaha dealers on Ebay was actually the cheapest route (They would only do full RRP on the phone!), so I ended up getting the front section for £141.95 including postage and the rear rack for £149.99 including postage, total cost £291.94. A saving of £47.06 over RRP.

I’m now almost £300.00 lighter but, can confidently reach the ground making the bike much more enjoyable to ride. There’s nothing worse then having to make sure you stop somewhere where you can always get a foot down, especially when on the trails. At least now I can just stop without having to worry whether I’ll be able to reach the ground or not.

More soon …

Ride outs, new parts and an Armchair Festival

Since the easing of the COVID19 lockdown here in the U.K. I’ve been making the most of the freedom and putting a few miles on the bike.

End of the road, Orford Suffolk

Since my last blog article I’ve put almost 1000 miles on the Tenere 700. It’s been great to get back on the bike after 4 months of lockdowns and to finally start to get to grips with it. There’s still a few things I’m not happy with but, over the next few weeks/months I’m hoping to get things sorted.

Logging in Rendlesham Forest

The biggest problem I have with the T7 is the seat height, it’s just too tall for my little legs! Having just a 29in inside leg the Rally Edition seat stretches me to the absolute limit. Only being able to get one foot down on tiptoes really isn’t good for trail riding especially if there are river crossings involved where ideally I’d like to get both feet firmly planted.

I’ve been looking into getting the seat re-profiled and made lower but, the cost of doing this is almost as much as buying an OEM low seat and rear rack unit instead of the passenger seat. So after much deliberation I’ve ordered and OEM low seat and the rack to fit in place of the passenger seat. This will hopefully lower me enough so that I have more chance of making contact with terra-firma. This will enable me to keep the original Rally Edition seat so that if I ever decide sell the bike I can put it back to original configuration. The new seat parts should arrive in the next week or so, I’ll let you know how it goes.

Horsey Wind Pump, Norfolk

I’ve also purchased a pair of Oxford Hot Hands over grip electric warmers for the bike. Having had grip warmers on many of my previous bikes I’ve realised that I really don’t like having cold hands!

I decided to go with the over grip warmers as they make the hand grips slightly bigger in diameter. This makes quite a difference on long trips especially for arthritis sufferers like me. Increasing the diameter of the grips makes it a lot easier to keep the throttle open on long trips and helps reduce hand fatigue, the warmth also helps with the pain when it gets cold.

Amazon have them at a bargain price at the moment, I got them for £38.37 reduced from £69.99, bargain!

I’ll need to get the appropriate connector to attach the hand warmers to the wiring harness, but these are easily available from Eastern Beaver.

I also need to install the second 12v socket to the bike and wire it into the 10A feed that is available from the wiring harness. The OEM fitted 12v socket is fused at 2A and won’t drive much more than my iPhone. I may even rewire it to the 2nd 10A feed on the bike so that I have two 12v sockets capable of charging many devices at the same time. I’ll put together a separate article on this when I get to it.

Sean, Ben and I have all booked places for the Armchair Festival down in Cornwall in September. This is a new adventure festival and it’ll be interesting to see how it turns out. If you’re also coming to the event be sure to give us a shout as we’ll be camping for the weekend.

Well that’s it for the moment, more soon!

Walcott Beach, Norfolk